Legally Disrupted
How AI is rewriting the rules for lawyers, in-house teams, and legal operations. Hosted by Zach Abramowitz.
37 episodes curated
Episodes
E30 - Is AI Disrupting ALSPs? Axiom CSO Catherine Kemnitz
In Episode 30 of 'Legally Disrupted,' Zach engages in a thought-provoking discussion with Catherine Kemnitz, Axiom's Chief Strategy Officer. They address a LinkedIn debate on how AI will disrupt both Contract Lifecycle Management (CLM) and Alternative Legal Service Providers (ALSPs). Katherine offers insights from her extensive legal industry experience, including her tenure at Axiom and Thomson Reuters, highlighting major transactions and strategic pivots influenced by technological advancements. In this episode: Catherine Kemnitz's Career Journey Axiom's Strategic Moves and Innovations The I
E29 - Why Firms Are Buying Niche AI, Centari Founder Kevin Walker
Zach sits down with Centari founder Kevin Walker to unpack the opportunities and obstacles of selling AI to law firms when it isn’t a generalized assistant like ChatGPT or Harvey. Kevin makes the case for why tackling highly specialized problems, such as Deal Intelligence, delivers unique, lasting value to firms. In this episode: Understanding Centari's Vision Unique Market Insights and Adoption Challenges and Opportunities in Legal Tech Building Trust with Law Firms Future of Legal Practices Fried Frank Partnership Navigating Market Noise First Principles and Differentiation AI Adoption in La
E28 - Zach and Richard's Excellent Legal AI Adventure: Inside Eudia's Groundbreaking AI-First Law Firm
Zach and Richard break down AI-first legal services, ALSPs, and the EUDIA announcement. Asking who really owns legal AI, whether ROI even matters, and how these new firms might rewrite the rules of the industry. In this episode: Non-Lawyer Ownership of Law Firms AI in Transactional Work The Business Model of AI-First Law Firms Measurable ROI in Legal Tech The IKEA Catalog Scenario AI-First Firms vs. Incumbents Market Saturation and Future Predictions References: https://www.artificiallawyer.com/2025/09/03/eudia-opens-ai-augmented-law-firm-for-ma/ Learn More: Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted
E27 - Zach and Richard's Legal AI Adventure: Big Deals and AI Revolution
In this episode of 'Legally Disrupted,' host Zach Abramowitz introduces a new recurring segment called 'Zach and Richard's Legal AI Adventure' with Richard Tromans from Artificial Lawyer. They discuss the rapid evolution in the legal tech sphere, particularly focusing on big deals and announcements from legal AI companies like Harvey and Legora. The duo debates the impact of generative AI productivity platforms on the legal market, the notion of a 'land grab' as firms race to adopt AI, and the potential for AI to become universally adopted in legal workflows. They also touch on the pricing dyn
E26 - Exploring Legal Tech Investments in the Post-ChatGPT World with Chris Fisher and Jonathan Levy
In episode 26 of 'Legally Disrupted,' host Zach Abramowitz brings us a live conversation from the Legal Innovators California Conference in San Francisco. The discussion features Chris Fisher of Myriad Ventures and Jonathan Levy of Y Combinator, two prominent investors in the legal tech space. They delve into the shifts in legal tech investments from the pre-ChatGPT era to the post-ChatGPT world, the impact of AI on legal services, and the emerging talent in the field. The investors also share insights on their investment strategies, the importance of domain expertise, and their vision for the
E25 - Are Lawyers Adopting AI? With David Wong and Raghu Ramanathan
E25 - Are Lawyers Adopting AI? With David Wong and Raghu Ramanathan In episode 25 of 'Legally Disrupted,' host Zach Abramowitz sits down with David Wong, Chief Product Officer at Thomson Reuters and Ragunath (Raghu) Ramanathan, President of Legal Professionals and Government at Thomson Reuters, to discuss the 2025 Future of Professionals Report. The conversation explores AI's increasing adoption and its impact on the legal industry. In this episode: Discussing the Future of Professionals Report AI Adoption and Productivity Insights Comparing In-House Legal Departments and Law Firms AI Strategy
E23 - Investment Hype vs. Reality in Legal AI, Eli Amsellem, Ridge Ventures
In this episode, Zach Abramowitz is joined by Eli Amsellem, an investor at Ridge Ventures, to delve into the hot topic of investment in legal AI. They discuss the hype around billion-dollar valuations and the reality behind customer adoption and revenue sustainability. Eli shares insights from his hands-on approach, including talking to actual buyers and hosting GC therapy dinners. They debate the future of legal AI, whether horizontal AI assistants or vertical workflow automation will prevail, and examine companies like Harvey, Legora, New Code, OpenPolicy, and Legalmation. This episode offer
E22 - Is AI For Contract Review Exciting? Preston Clark and Electra Japonas from LawInsider and oneNDA
In this episode, Zach delves into the evolution and impact of AI on contract management with Preston Clark and Electra Japonas. In this episode: AI and Contracts: A Boring Use Case The Adoption Curve of AI in Legal The Story of Law Insider The Birth of One NDA The Future of AI and Contracting Legacy Product Overview AI Capabilities and New SKU User Growth and Market Excitement Product Distribution and Democratization Customer Focus and Data Utilization CLM Market Insights and Future Learn More: Electra - https://www.onenda.org/about Preston - https://www.lawinsider.com/resources/contributors/p
E21 - ChatGPT vs. Legaltech -- Who Will Win? Lawyer & Technologist Carolyn Elefant
This episode of Zach Abramowitz is Legally Disrupted features a conversation with lawyer and technologist Carolyn Elefant about whether legal specific tools and legacy software will be able to keep up with general applications like ChatGPT. In this episode: The Rapid Evolution of AI in Law The Future of AI in Legal Practice Exploring AI Tools for Lawyers Legal Research and AI Integration The Impact of AI on Legal Research The Future of Legaltech and AI Learn More: Carolyn - https://lawofficesofcarolynelefant.com/ Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/ Follow Along: Carolyn - https://www.link
E20 - From Legacy ML To Generative AI: Serial Legaltech Entrepreneur Charlie Connor
In this episode, Zach and Charlie delve into the rapid advancements in AI, particularly in the legal tech sector. The discussion transitions to the increasing caliber of entrepreneurs in legal tech and the acceleration of innovation in the field. They reflect on the evolution of legal AI from 2015 to 2023, noting the shift from mere ideas to full-blown products. The conversation also explores the potential for AI to reshape traditional legal processes, improve efficiency, and alter the way legal professionals approach their work, concluding with an optimistic outlook on the future of legal tec
E17 - How AI Has Tech Companies Pivoting with Eleanor Lightbody, CEO of Luminance
In this episode, Zach interviews Eleanor Lightbody, the CEO of Luminance, about her journey from working at Darktrace to leading Luminance, a legal tech company. Eleanor shares insights from her four years as CEO, highlighting the transformative impact of AI in the legal tech space. They discuss Luminance's growth strategy, the development of their contract lifecycle management tool, and the shift from M&A-specific uses to a broader, more inclusive approach. Eleanor also delves into how generative AI is changing user expectations and behaviors, and emphasizes the importance of balancing curren
E15 - Could “AI For Lawyers” Catch on Faster with In-House Attorneys? Katya Fisher, CEO and Founder of Aracor
Katya Fisher introduces her journey from a practicing attorney to a tech entrepreneur. She shares her experience of building a successful law practice during the Great Recession and how she acquired a unique set of legal skills. Katya talks about the inefficiencies in the legal world that led her to build Aracor.ai, a legal tech product tailored for in-house counsel of investment firms such as venture capital funds, private equity groups, and family offices. Learn More: Aracor - https://www.aracor.ai/ Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/ Follow Along: Katya - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ka
E14 - Are the Lines Blurring Between DMS and AI? NetDocuments CPO Dan Hauck
In this episode recorded at the NetDocuments Inspire EMEA conference in London, Dan Hauck outlines the strides made in integrating AI into legal document management. The discussion begins with a reflection on a previous webinar and the decision to avoid common, simplistic AI solutions like chatbots, instead focusing on using LLMs for intelligent document tagging. The development and features of NetDocuments' AI suite, ndMax, are detailed, emphasizing automated processes like semantic search, document metadata enrichment, and contract summarization. The conversation also touches on the importan
E12 - AI and the Future of Legal Ops with LegalOps.com Founders Jeff Franke and Connie Brenton
In episode 12 of Zach Abramowitz is Legally Disrupted, Zach interviews Jeff Franke and Connie Brenton, co-founders of LegalOps.com, ahead of their upcoming conference, "Running Legal Like a Business," in Las Vegas from September 3-6. The discussion highlights the evolution of legal operations, emphasizing the need for community and industry standards, which they aim to foster through their platform. Learn more about the conference "Running Legal Like a Business" - https://event-2024.legalops.com/ Learn More: Legal Ops - legalops.com , lawvision.com Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/ Foll
E11 - Is Harvey.ai All Hype? Giupedi CEO Edward Bukstel
In this episode of Zach Abramowitz is Legally Disrupted, dive into the world of digital health and legal technology with a seasoned entrepreneur who has been at the forefront of healthcare technology since the late 1980s. The discussion covers the evolution of electronic health records, the intersection of digital health and legal tech, and the challenges faced by lawyers in adopting new technologies. Edward Bukstel shares insights on his current venture, which aims to streamline the process for personal injury cases and improve communication between clients and lawyers. The conversation also